the children's access to education. if it means to forfeit the race, it just shows how important education is to many, many families. >> and then the african-american groups, if they check the box, if might mean itmy be more difficult, let's just say. some of the examples for many of these would-be students, these students applying to go to schools right now, whether it works for them or against them? >> right, especially at the top-performing schools. asians are no longer the minority. in fact, in some schools they're in fact the majority of students on campus. we see how race becomes a broader conversation. it's not just what race means in a broader context but what does it mean to you. we're now at a point where we're asking people to define themselves. the way you looked is what you were. you may look this way but you want to honor this part of your heritage. you people like vin diesel who called him a harmony baby. or tiger woods who calls himself caucasian. >> criticism of affirmative action and the concept is as